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For the curve x^2 + y^2 = 25, what is dy/dx at the point (3, 4)?

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Step by step

The question

Question: find the slope of x² + y² = 25 at the point (3, 4).

x2 + y2 = 25

The derivative when y is mixed in with x.

y is not written alone, but y still depends on x.

So for y we use the chain rule.

y squared gives 2y, times dy/dx.

y depends on x: y2 → 2y × dydx

There are four choices.

First we solve it, the normal way.

Then we pick.

1 The derivative of each side

Now each term.

x terms as usual, y terms times dy/dx, a number alone gives 0.

2x + 2y dydx = 0

Careful!

y depends on x.

So we must multiply by dy/dx.

Careful: not y2 → 2y ✗

2 Get dy/dx alone

We want the dy/dx terms alone on the left.

So we take away 2x from both sides.

2y dydx = −2x

To remove times 2y, we divide both sides by it.

dydx = −2x2y

The numbers are all 2, so we divide by 2.

top and bottom ÷ 2

Tidy up: dy/dx = −x over y.

dydx = −xy

3 The slope at the point

First, is (3, 4) on the curve?

Put x = 3 and y = 4 in.

We get 25.

Yes, it is.

32 + 42 = 9 + 16 = 25 ✓

Put x = 3 and y = 4 into dy/dx.

So the slope at (3, 4) is −3/4.

dydx = −34

4 Check

Let's check with a very close point on the curve.

At x = 3.001, a calculator gives y ≈ 3.99925.

x = 3.001: y ≈ 3.99925

The slope between the two points: down 0.00075, across 0.001.

About −0.75.

Very close to −0.75.

Right!

3.99925 − 40.001 ≈ −0.75

5 Pick the choice

Our answer is slope = −3/4.

That is choice C.

C) −34

6 Why not the others

A is 3/4.

Wrong: lost the minus sign.

A) 34 ✗ lost the minus sign

B is −4/3.

Wrong: y/x: it is x over y.

B) −43 ✗ y over x: it is x over y

D is 4/3.

Wrong: y/x and no minus sign.

D) 43 ✗ y over x and no minus sign

Let's look back.

First: the derivative of each side.

Then: get dy/dx alone.

Then: the slope at the point.

Then: check.

Then: pick the choice.

Last: why not the others.

Answer
dydx = −xy

Your turn

Try this one yourself, then check your answer:

Find the slope of x2 + y2 = 100 at the point (8, 6)
Show the answer
slope = −43

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