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Probability of success 0.2, P(first success on try 3)

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The question

Question: each try has a probability of success of 0.2: what is the probability that the first success comes on try 3?

p = 0.2: first success on try 3?

X counts the tries up to the first success.

X = the try of the first success

1 Name p and q

p, the chance of a success on one try, is 0.2.

p = 0.2

q, the chance of a fail, is 1 minus p: 0.8.

q = 1 − 0.2 = 0.8

Every try has the same chance, and one try does not change the next.

every try: the same p, and the tries do not affect each other

2 Fail, then win

First success on try 3: the first 2 tries fail, then try 3 wins.

tries 1 to 3: F F S
F = fail, S = success

Fail, fail, then win: we multiply.

q for each of the 2 fails, then p for the win.

P(X = 3) = q × q × p = 0.8 × 0.8 × 0.2

Careful!

Only 2 fails come before the win, not 3.

Careful: not q3 × p ✗

3 Multiply

0.8 times 0.8 is 0.64.

Times 0.2: 0.1280.

P(X = 3) = 0.64 × 0.2 = 0.1280

4 Check

Let's check with 1000 people trying.

On each try, 20 percent of those left win, the rest go on.

Try 1: 200 win, 800 go on.

Try 2: 160 win, 640 go on.

1000 people: try 1: 200 win, 800 go on; try 2: 160 win, 640 go on;

On try 3, 128 win for the first time.

128 out of 1000 is about 0.1280.

So it is right!

try 3: 128 win: 128 ÷ 1000 ≈ 0.1280

Let's look back.

First: name p and q.

Then: fail, then win.

Then: multiply.

Last: check.

Answer
P(X = 3) = 0.64 × 0.2 = 0.1280

Your turn

Try this one yourself, then check:

p = 0.1: first success on try 3?
Show the answer
P(X = 3) = 0.0810

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